Final ses­sion. Gerard Noonan has star­ted with a descrip­tion of how filing in the old days involved find­ing a pay phone, drop­ping a coin in the slot, dial­ing, unscrew­ing the cover of the hand­set and attach­ing alligator clips to it to send what he calls “actu­al­ity” down the line.

This last ses­sion is another bunch of older white men who run news­rooms. They are Steve Foley, Deputy Editor of The Age; Michael Wilkins, Man­aging Editor, Daily & Sunday Tele­graph and mX; and Murray Cox, Exec­ut­ive Pro­du­cer, AAP Digital. They’re sup­posed to be talk­ing about how the “integ­rated news­room” changes the way “we” work. I’m pre­sum­ing “we” are journ­al­ists although all these men are man­agers now.

It seems, so far, to be a nos­tal­gia session. 

But wait, Steve Foley is talk­ing about the new layout of the news­room, how the desks have been moved from an oblong of dis­tance to a theatre in the round, lit­er­ally. I already knew this from Dan Ziffer, but the Age has shif­ted the main eds (news, pic­ture, online, the works) into a circle where they all talk to each other and with a back circle of 18 seats of sec­tion eds and related seni­ors. Appar­ently this is a test run before The Age moves to a new build­ing in two years’ time.

There’s a bunch more but fun­nily enough my main sense is that this final ses­sion is mis­placed. Why are all these guys from news­pa­pers? This isn’t the future of journ­al­ism they’re talk­ing about, it’s the future of news­pa­pers. Which isn’t why we’re here. Or at least, I thought that was a very old discussion.

Where is someone from the ABC’s very integ­rated news­room where text had no place until the advent of the net? How do they deal with TV, radio and online? What about someone from SBS with the same issues and pre­sum­ably mul­ti­lin­gual, multi-news sources? And what about someone from left field, someone from a pre­dom­in­antly online space who is deal­ing with the new “integ­rated news­room” in an entirely dif­fer­ent way?

I get the sense, in the end, as Chris Warren from the IFJ says, that rather than being Jay Rosen’s will­ing migrants about to chart a course to the prom­ised land, I am listen­ing to a bunch of digital con­victs, thrown on board a ship not know­ing where they’re going and not quite sure why they’re being pun­ished by being sent to this incom­pre­hens­ible place but determ­ined to make a go of it anyway.

I will prob­ably muse a little more over the next few days. I fin­ished my after­noon having a coffee with my good old friend David Sutton, from those old days of 3am philo­sophy I was talk­ing about the other day, who is now Man­ager, Cor­por­ate Devel­op­ment at the ABC. Oh, how the humble have risen. We nattered. It was good.