With ref­er­ence to last night’s dis­cus­sions, check out what the_christian said about war crimes.

It’s pretty much what I was saying but with more vehe­mence, bit­ter­ness and actual examples. Except I wasn’t saying “it’s been worse in the past so we should­n’t be shocked”, I was saying “we know these things happen in wars, so I’m more revol­ted because Bush and cronies are trying to pre­tend this is isol­ated and the cul­prits are saying “not our fault…”. And I think I have a little more emphasis on “this is one of the reas­ons we pro­tested the war in the first place, because we *know* it dehu­man­ises”. And I don’t believe in “human nature”, so I do think we can resist doing these things, but army train­ing is *designed* to remove that con­science, leav­ing us with people who will always act as these guys did. Or almost always.

As for the dis­cus­sion of “shock”, I’m still shocked, just not sur­prised, and I’m still dis­gus­ted and revol­ted and saddened and furi­ous. Because this was avoid­able. We didn’t have to go to war. We said, over and over, don’t go to this war. And they went anyway. And this result was pretty much inev­it­able. And that makes me sick.

Anyhow, great post, Mister Christian. 

Sorry for the lack of coher­ence on my part. Have just fin­ished re-order­ing the second half of the thesis now. Almost there…