Interview with Bul, October 3, 2001.

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B: My name is Bul, I’m 18 years old and I’m from South Sudan. We came here in October 1996, mainly because of war and looking for a better life. My country’s been at war now for 46 years on and off. We’re mainly fighting the Muslims in the North and the Christians in the South. The reason for this is the government in the North wanted to Islamise the whoole country, but the Southerners were Christians and we opposed that so that’s when the war started, and it’s been going on now for many years. A lot of people have died. There’s slavery, you know, trade in people, and everything. Just all kinds of terrible things are going on in South Sudan.

R: So what do you think needs to be done to stop the war?

B: Probably all the European countries that have invested in Sudan’s oil… if they pull out, I think this will probably weaken the government and it’ll probably bring an end to the war. Because, you know, these foreign countries, they’re fuelling the war. $1 million US dollars a day, and this money goes into military hardware. I just think they should pull out, and then maybe the government would try and do something about it and maybe if we try and let the world know what’s going on in South Sudan, because a lot of people have no idea what’s going on there. And if people are aware of what’s happening they might put a little pressure on the government to try and do something and maybe change the way it’s running the country.

R: What do you think about what happened in America?

B: I think it was probably one man’s work and now a lot of Muslims all over the world are being blamed for it. There’s been a lot of attacks. I think that what’s happening there, it could have happened anywhere, it could have happened here. A lot of people say the Americans were asking for it, and I suppose in a way they were, but that was just terrible what they did there. That was outrageous. But in my opinion, Islam isn’t a religion, it’s an ideology, just like Communism. These people in Palestine committing suicide and believing that they’re going to go to heaven for doing such terrible things. I just think that’s a primitive thinking. You know? I mean, if it’s a religion, you’re supposed to be nice to people! Help people, that’s God’s way.

R: So what do you think of globalisation?

B: I really think it’s not fair on third world countries. These guys are making more money, while these guys are going all the way down to the bottom of the ladder. And also, they’re taking advantage of the war, you know, while the country’s at war, they just see it as an opportunity to make more money. They don’t care who’s dying, as long as they’re making millions of dollars. That’s the problem.

R: Do you talk to other South Sudanese people on the Internet?

B: I’ve met a couple of people. They’re actually living in China, and some from Eritrea and Ethiopia, and we chat online and just trade news of what’s happening.

R: Do you think there’s a global South Sudanese community based on the Internet?

B: I’m not sure. If there is, I would have a look at it, but I doubt that there is.

R: Do you feel like an Australian now or do you feel South Sudanese or a combination?

B: Oh, I feel like an Australian in sort of a way, but you know, inside, I’m still strongly southern Sudanese. But I mean, Australia’s now my new home, so I’ll try and settle in and be a part of it.